--- PAGE 1 --- - 1 of 3 - FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry ~ was inte rviewed by Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Special Agent (SA) SA and After being advised on the identities of the inte rviewing agents, - provided the following information : Prior t o h is cur rent r ole had previously worked for On - 2026 , - and le ft the - at at approximately 7 : 45pm and were headed to a l ocat i on on the central/northern portion of - Weather condition at the time was rainy with significant cloud cover. Approximately 30 minutes after passing through the (approximately 8 : 00pm- 8 : 30pm), saw two unidentif ied lights in the sky, pulled over to the side o f the r oad and ex ited the vehicle to investigate . - described the lights as "dash" shaped and dul l red in color t o t he naked eye . The l ights moved along the ridgeline o f the mountains t o his west . - was equipped with Night Opt ica l Devices (NODs) and observed the lights through said optics as well . - relayed that, despite being "dash­ shaped" to the naked eye, the lights appeared "orb- like " or circular t h r ough the NODs, with the characteristic "NOD halo " around them, which is typical when l ooking at a l i ght source through NODs . - stated that he is very fami liar with using NODs, as he has been using them for 25+ yea rs and has many hou rs of experience . - stated that he has astigmatism and while the objects appeared "dash- shaped" t o h im, stated they appeared tr iangular or diamond - shaped, which could possibly be attributed t o - astigmatism . Afte r approximately 20 minutes, both of the aforementioned unidentif ied lights disappeared . Shortly thereafter - observed , another, similar Un ited States . Investigation on _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Date drafted ~ by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions ofthe FBI. It is the property ofthe FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. --- PAGE 2 --- FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) Continuation ofFD-302 of _ _ _ _ _ _ _ , On ~ ,Page 2 of 3 unidentified l i ght appear directly above their locat ion and was v i sible for approximately 10 minutes , before i t, t oo , dis appeared . Somet i me be t ween 1 0 : 00pm and 11 : 00pm , - observed another, simi la r unidentified l i ght appear approximately 600 meters (est i mated) t o the east of their posit i on and appeared t o be approximately 500 fee t above their vehicl e . Th e uni dent i fied lig h t appeared t o move t owa rd them and stopped approximately 400 me ters away . A second unident if ied l i g ht appeared and moved t oward, and then stopped in proximity o f, t h e first . Th e second l ight appeared t o be approximat e ly 6 feet off the ground . As wat ched the two unident if ie d l i ghts t o t h e east , he not i ced light i n h i s peri pheral v i sion descend from a lt itude and stop in a dry wash approximate ly 100 me ter s behind them . Although - could not d i rect l y see the li ght source , he observe d the g l ow emanating f rom t he wash . watche d the glow move through the wash . entered their vehic le and drove up t o t he next i ntersect i on in attempt to get a better view of t h e unidentified l ights to t heir east . Upon arri val , the l ights were no l onger observed . - ­ - returned to the ir ori gina l pos it ion, but were unable t o re - acqui r e the unidentif i ed lights . walked 1 0- 20 meters away from the vehicle to l ook around the area ; - remained near the vehicle. At t h i s t i me , - ad justed t h e fi lter on h i s NODs t o l ook at h i s watch , which displ ayed approximately 1 : 00am (estimated based on memory) . - s watch was a Men's Au t oma tic Analog Watch . - wa l ked back t o t he vehi cle t o check h i s phone , which displayed 12 : 40am . - noted the discrepancy , compared the time displ ayed on h i s watch to the time displ ayed o n h is phone and obse rved that the t ime o n h is watch was 25 minutes ahead o f the time on his phone and the vehicl e ' s digital c l ock . - re l ayed t h e discrepancy t o ■■■■■, whose digital watch displayed the same t ime as the phones and vehi cle c l ock . - stated that he had owned t hat watch for approximate ly 5 years , and i t had never been off by more than 60 - 90 seconds . - had la st checked the t ime o n his watch at approximate ly 10 : 00pm, and i t was accurate at that t ime . - stated that h i s watch was the on l y mechanical/analog/non - d ig ital clock in t h e v i cinity at that time and it was the o n ly clock that displ ayed a di ffere nt time . - d i d not adjust h i s wa t ch or reset t he time for 2 4 hours to see i f it continued to malfuncti on ; the wat ch cont i nued t o keep accurate time bu t rema ined ~5 minutes fast . --- PAGE 3 --- FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) - t old agents t h at he had spent a c onsiderabl e amount o f time at a - facility looking up at t h e night sky, and was fami l iar with how stars / satel li tes / mete o rs l ook t o bo th t h e naked eye and with NODs ­ stated that the lig h ts he observed and described were u n like anything h e had seen before . - stated that the l ights he observed o n - did not behave like sate lli tes, as sate lli tes track linea r acro ss the sky, whereas these did no t . - stated t he unidentified l ights moved a round and changed direction , and a l s o appeared to be as low as 6 feet o ff the g r o und . The low- e l evation lig h ts described would have been backdro pped by the mountains and be low the r e l ative hori z o n l ine I h e o bserved was no t a UAS that he famil iar with . - noted no exhaust o r ta il when these ob j ects moved , and they exhibited no a udibl e sound signature . - attempted to observed t h e o bjects through t h ermal o ptics, but was unsuccessful . no ted no phys i ologica l effects from the events . - stated that the ob se rvations d id not induce a fe ar or agitati o n respon se - j us t c u r ios ity . conversed abo ut thi s afterward, and g iven their backgro unds , f ound it strange that they di d not fee l fear or threatened during the ir o bservation s . - provided his contact in f o rmati on and was open t o furt h er contact from agents .