--- PAGE 1 --- 4-598 (REV. 11-20-75) Declassification authority derived from FBI Automatic Declassification Guide, issued May 24, 2007. [illegible] of Justice [illegible]ED FROM OR ADDED TO THIS FILE BUREAU of INVESTIGATION DESTROY FOIPA # [unclear: 993089] PICKETT STREET COPIED FOR FOIPA MAY 14 1971 BY: [illegible] COPIED FOR FOIPA MAR 8 1978 BY 29 COPIED FOR FOIPA JAN 19 1976 [illegible] [unclear: Huwed - 1961/1972?] COPIED FOR FOIPA JUN 11 1976 [illegible] USE CARE IN HANDLING THIS FILE Transfer-Call 3421 FBI - CENTRAL RECORDS CENTER HQ - HEADQUARTERS Class / Case # 62 83894 Sub 5 Vol. 186 Serial # 245 77157715510 [unclear: RRP0090UL00] 62-HQ-83894 SERIALS 186-245 62-HQ-83894-5 SECTION 5 SERIALS 186-245 62-HQ-83894 SECTION 5 SERIALS 186-245 --- PAGE 2 --- [illegible] 50 206 209 14 [unclear: Buehler?] " " 209 Req 5/6/84 FBI [illegible] 2/13/51 2091 Arizona 254 [stamp: RELEASED UNDER FOIPA] --- PAGE 3 --- STANDARD FORM NO. 64 Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : Director, FBI DATE: July 26, 1949 FROM : SAC, San Antonio SUBJECT: FLYING DISKS INTERNAL SECURITY - R On July 15, 1949, the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, G-2, Fourth Army, advised that a small article which had appeared in the Galveston (Texas) News on July 10, 1949, advertised the fact that the Young Men's Business Club of Alexandria, Louisiana, announced that it was planning a convention for persons from all over the nation who have seen flying saucers. It was stated that the convention was planned so that members may compare notes. It was also stated that flying disks were reported twice inthe week preceding the article in Alexandria, Louisiana. The above is furnished as a matter of information. cc: New Orleans 100-7545 JEJ:wjw RECORDED - 22 EX-112 [unclear: 162 - 83994 - 186] F B I 34 JUL 29 1949 52 AUG 5 1949 [unclear: 246] [unclear handwritten marks] --- PAGE 4 --- Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO: Director, FBI FROM: SAC, San Antonio SUBJECT: [unclear: FLYING SAUCERS?] DATE: July 24, 1949 On July 11, 1949, the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, G-2, Fourth Army, advised that a small article which had appeared in the Galveston (Texas) News on July 10, 1949, advertised the fact that the [illegible] Club of Newport, Louisiana, announced that it was planning a convention for persons from all over the nation who have seen the saucer. It was stated that the convention was planned so that members of this society might meet and compare notes. All persons were requested [illegible] [illegible] the article [illegible]. The above is furnished as a matter of information. [stamp:] RECEIVED AUG 4 5:25 PM ’49 [illegible] S.O. FIELD OFFICE --- PAGE 5 --- OFFICE OF DIRECTOR FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE Record of Telephone Call or Visitor [unclear] Flying Saucers Mr. Ernest Cuneo called - phoned. from New York City Phone No.____________ Hour 10:54am Date July 11, 1949 REMARKS When informed of Mr. Hoover's and Mr. Ladd's absence from their office. Mr. Cuneo declined to speak to anyone else and stated that he was just following up on a conversation he had with Mr. Ladd over the weekend. He asked that Mr. Ladd be informed of his call. Tolson Clegg Mr. Glavin Mr. Ladd Mr. Nichols Mr. Rosen Mr. Tracy Mr. Egan Mr. Gurnea Mr. Harbo Mr. Jones Mr. Mohr Mr. Pennington Tele. Room Mr. Nease Miss Holmes Miss Gandy RECORDED - 59 INDEXED - 59 [unclear: 62-83894-189] [unclear: 3 AUG 18 1949] rjp 61 AUG 11 1949 RECEIVED - [illegible] --- PAGE 6 --- [unclear: RECEIVED-LAB?] F B I U. S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE JUL 11 1 58 PM ’49 RECEIVED--FLETCHER JUL 11 7 54 PM ’49 [unclear: RECEIVED-TOLSON?] [illegible] JUL 11 1 20 PM ’49 RECEIVED--FLETCHER AUG 8 7 26 PM ’49 --- PAGE 7 --- OFFICE OF DIRECTOR FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE Record of Telephone Call or Visitor [handwritten: [illegible]] Mr. Ernest Cuneo thru. opr. from [strikethrough: called-]phoned. NYC Phone No.________________ Hour 10:29am Date July 12, 1949 REMARKS When informed that Mr. Hoover was not in his office, Mr. Cuneo asked to speak with Mr. Ladd, and after checking the call was transferred, to Mr. Ladd. Mr. Ladd advises that Mr. Cuneo was calling about the matter he dicussed with Mr. Ladd on last Saturday re a flying saucer in Califor- nia. Mr. Cuneo asked if he could release the story. He was told that this was up to him rjp/mhm [handwritten: What [illegible] done re it?] RECORDED - 59 INDEXED - 59 [unclear: 62-83894-H6] F B I 3 AUG 19 1949 [unclear: 61 AUG 11 1949] Mr. Tolson Mr. Clegg Mr. Glavin Mr. Ladd Mr. Nichols Mr. Rosen Mr. Tracy Mr. Egan Mr. Gurnea Mr. Harbo Mr. Jones Mr. Mohr Mr. Pennington Tele. Room Mr. Nease Miss Holmes Miss Gandy --- PAGE 8 --- [illegible] RECEIVED-[unclear: LADD] F B I RECEIVED-[unclear: FLETCHER], OF JUSTICE JUL 12 1941 [unclear: 46 PM 249] [unclear: AUG 18 47 PM 7026] [unclear: RECEIVED-M] F.B.I. U.S. DEPT. OF J. AUG 5 RECEIVED - FLETCHER JUL 12 / 56 PM ’40 --- PAGE 9 --- [handwritten: ML] [handwritten: K3-] July 21, 1949 Mr. Ernest Cuneo 40 Wall Street New York, New York Dear Ernie: You will recall the telephone conversa- tions about Mr. Peter Camerlo Jones, 164 West 37th Street, Los Angeles 7, California, and information furnished by him on the subject of flying saucers. I thought you would like to know that efforts made to locate Mr. Jones have been un- successful and casual inquiry in the vicinity he mentioned did not develop information about any one who is acquainted with him. I thought you might wish to consider the possibility that the original letter in this matter may have been a prank. Sincerely yours, [stamp: RECORDED - 58] [stamp: INDEXED - 59] [handwritten: 62-83874 - 189] [stamp: 3 AUG 10 - 1949] [stamp: U.S. DE[illegible]] [stamp: JUL 22 1949] [stamp: RECEIVED - [illegible]] Mr. Tolson Mr. Clegg Mr. Glavin Mr. Ladd Mr. Nichols Mr. Rosen Mr. Tracy Mr. Egan Mr. Gurnea Mr. Harbo Mr. Mohr Mr. Pennington Mr. Quinn Tam[illegible] Tele. Room Mr. Nease Miss Gandy [stamp: FBI COMMUNICATIONS SECTION] [stamp: REC'D] [stamp: JUL 22 1949 P.M.] [stamp: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION] [stamp: U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE] [stamp: 61 AUG 11 1949] [stamp: RECEIVED TIME ROOM] [stamp: JUL 22 9 58 AM ’49] [stamp: U. S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE] [stamp: F. B. I.] --- PAGE 10 --- RD FORM NO. 64 Office Memorandum · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : THE DIRECTOR DATE: July 12, 1949 FROM : D. M. Ladd SUBJECT: Mr. Tolson Mr. Clegg Mr. Glavin Mr. Ladd Mr. Nichols Mr. Rosen Mr. Tracy Mr. Egan Mr. Gurnea Mr. Harbo Mr. Mohr Mr. Pennington Mr. Quinn Tamm Tele. Room Mr. Nease Miss Holmes Miss Gandy You inquired as to what was being done with reference to the information concerning flying saucers, which information was furnished by Ernest Cuneo. I desire to advise that a letter is being prepared for the Los Angeles Office suggesting that they make a discreet check of the background of the individual who wrote the letter to [handwritten: Walter] Winchell and thereafter interview him for details. It is believed that a letter is satisfactory inasmuch as it is noted that this alleged incident occurred in 1947. DML:dad [handwritten: This should have been done the first thing Monday instead of waiting until Wed. to get it out.] [handwritten: Teletyped LA 7-13-49] RECORDED - 59 INDEXED - 59 61 AUG 11 1949 62-83894-190 F B I 3 AUG 9 1949 --- PAGE 11 --- [unclear: NB?] [unclear: CW?] Mr. Tolson Mr. Ladd Mr. Nichols Mr. Rosen Mr. Tracy Mr. Egan Mr. [unclear] Mr. [unclear] Mr. Mohr Mr. Pennington Mr. Quinn Tamm Tele. Room Mr. Nease Miss Gandy JULY 18, 1949 URGENT SAC, LOS ANGELES PETER CAMERON JONES, INFORMATION CONCERNING. REMYTEL JULY TWELVE LAST. SUTEL RESULTS YOUR BACKGROUND [handwritten: INVESTIGATION] [strikethrough: INVESTIGATION] AND INTERVIEW OF SUBJECT. HOOVER EHM:jpa INITIALLED DIRECTOR'S OFFICE RECORDED - 59 INDEXED - 59 [unclear: 162-83894] F B I 3 AUG 18 1949 RECEIVED-DIRECTOR U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE JUL 18 [illegible] PM ’49 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COMMUNICATIONS SECTION RECEIVED - TELETYPE JUL 18 1949 TELEMETER 270 COPIES DESTROYED NOV 18 1964 61 AUG 11 1949 --- PAGE 12 --- [illegible] INVESTIGATION [illegible] INDEXED [unclear] RECORDED - [unclear] FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COMMUNICATIONS SECTION RECEIVED - FLETCHER OCT 18 1960 [unclear: 7:26 PM ’60] --- PAGE 13 --- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVE[illegible]GATION Room 5744 ______ 7-20 ______ 1949 [unclear: circled 78?] TO: ____Director ____Mr. Ladd ____Mr. Clegg ____Mr. Glavin ____Mr. Harbo ____Mr. Nichols ____Mr. Rosen ____Mr. Tracy ____Mr. Fletcher ____Mr. Mohr ____Mr. Carlson ____Mr. Nease ____Miss Gandy ____Personnel Files Section ____Records Section ____Mrs. Skillman ____[illegible] See Me For Appropriate Action Send File Note and Return Prepare note to Cuneo today Clyde Tolson --- PAGE 14 --- [stamp, partial:] RECEIVED AUG 8 7 25 [illegible] MR. JONES JUL 21 10 26 AM ’46 RECEIVED F.B.I. [unclear: DEPT. OF JUSTICE?] Mr. Ernest Cuneo 40 Wall St. N.Y. City [illegible] --- PAGE 15 --- [stamp:] Mr. Tolson ............ Mr. Ladd ............ Mr. Clegg ............ Mr. Glavin ............ Mr. Nichols ............ Mr. Rosen ............ Mr. Tracy ............ Mr. Harbo ............ Mr. Mohr ............ Tele. Room ............ Mr. Nease ............ Miss Gandy ............ [handwritten: [illegible]] [/stamp] Federal Bureau of Investigation United States Department of Justice Los Angeles 13, California July 13, 1949 DIRECTOR, FBI Re: PETER CAMERLON JONES INFORMATION CONCERNING Dear Sir: Re your teletype July 12, 1949. Present owner for one and one half years and former manager of court for six years, which includes 161 W. 37th Street, Los Angeles, do not know PETER CAMERLON JONES. Other investigation in an endeavor to locate JONES was not productive. - RUC - Very truly yours, [signature: R. B. Hood] R. B. HOOD, SAC LHM;jcw 62-3364 AMSD [handwritten, left margin: Flying Saucer] [stamp: DEFERRED RECORDING] [stamp: RECORDED - 59] [stamp: INDEXED - 59] [stamp: 62-83894-192] [stamp: F B I] [stamp: 3 AUG 9 1949] [stamp: 61 AUG 11 1949] [stamp: RECEIVED - TELETYPE] [stamp: [illegible]] [stamp: [illegible] RECEIVED] [handwritten: [illegible]] --- PAGE 16 --- Federal Bureau of Investigation United States Department of Justice Los Angeles 12, California July 13, 1949 DIRECTOR, FBI Re: FRANK EARL JONES INFORMATION CONCERNING Dear Sir: Re your teletype July 12, 1949. Present owner for one and one half years and former manager of court, for six years, [illegible], Los Angeles, do not know FRANK EARL JONES. Other investigation in an endeavor to locate JONES was not productive. - RUC - Very truly yours, [signature: unclear] R. B. HOOD, SAC [stamp: illegible] [stamp: RECEIVED ROSEN JUL 18 10 08 PM ’49 FBI DEPT. OF JUSTICE] [stamp: RECORDED [unclear: 53]] [stamp: INDEXED [unclear]] [stamp: RECEIVED [illegible] JUL 18 [illegible] PM ’49 FBI DEPT. OF JUSTICE] [stamp: JUL 18 1949] [stamp: illegible] --- PAGE 17 --- CC - 150 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAT[illegible] UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ROUTINE JULY 12, 1949 TO: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION. SAC, LOS ANGELES Transmit the following message to: PETE JONES, [illegible] WEST THIRTYSEVENTH STREET, LOS ANGELES, INFORMATION CONCERNING. SUBJECT ADDRESSED A LETTER TO WALTER WINCHELL RELATING THAT IN AUGUST, NINETEEN FORTYSEVEN, HE WAS HIKING IN THE MOUNTAINS OUT OF LA AND HE OBSERVED ABOUT ONE HALF BLOCK AWAY FROM HIM A LARGE SILVER METAL OBJECT SHAPED LIKE A CHILD'S TOP ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BALLOON. HE GAINED THE IMPRESSION THERE WAS LIFE WITHIN THE OBJECT THOUGH HE SAW NO ONE. HE STOOD UP AND WAVED TOWARDS THE OBJECT AND WITHIN A SECOND IT TOOK OFF, KNOCKING HIM TO THE GROUND. DISCREETLY CHECK BACKGROUND OF JONES. THEREAFTER, INTERVIEW HIM FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING ANY FACTS IN HIS POSSESSION CONCERNING THE STATEMENTS SET OUT HEREIN. HOOVER HBF:CWW [handwritten] Flying Saucer [handwritten] Peter Cameron Jones RECORDED - 59 INDEXED - 59 [handwritten] [unclear: 162-83894] - 193 F B I 3 AUG 10 1949 INITIALED DIRECTOR'S OFFICE RECEIVED U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE JUL 12 4 38 PM '49 RECEIVED - DIRECT F B I U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE JUL 12 [illegible] PM '49 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COMMUNICATIONS SECTION JUL 12 1949 COPIES DESTROYED 270 NOV 18 1964 AUG 11 1949 TELETYPE SENT VIA __________________ TELETYPE Mr. Tolson ______ Mr. E. A. Tamm ______ Mr. Clegg ______ Mr. Glavin ______ Mr. Ladd ______ Mr. Nichols ______ Mr. Rosen ______ Mr. Tracy ______ Mr. Carson ______ Mr. Egan ______ Mr. Gurnea ______ Mr. Harbo ______ Mr. Hendon ______ Mr. Pennington ______ Mr. Quinn ______ Mr. Nease ______ Miss Gandy ______ --- PAGE 18 --- [unclear: 001 - 00] FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION. Transmit the following message to: [illegible] RECORDED 49 INDEXED 58 [unclear: AUG 2 - 1949] [unclear: INITIALED] [unclear: DIRECTOR'S OFFICE] FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COMMUNICATIONS SECTION JUL 12 1949 TELETYPE [unclear: COPIES DESTROYED] [unclear: 270 NOV 18 1964] [unclear: RECEIVED-FLETCHER] --- PAGE 19 --- STANDARD FORM NO. 64 Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : THE DIRECTOR FROM : D. M. Ladd SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS DATE: July 12, 1949 [handwritten: ML] [handwritten: F3-] Mr. Tolson Mr. Clegg Mr. Glavin Mr. Ladd Mr. Nichols [strikethrough: Mr. Rosen] Mr. Tracy Mr. Egan Mr. Gurnea Mr. Harbo Mr. Mohr Mr. Pennington Mr. Quinn Tamm Tele. Room Mr. Nease Miss Holmes Miss Gandy [handwritten: Walter Winchell] I took a call from Ernest Cuneo by reference from your office. He referred to his call of last Saturday relative to a letter Mr. Winchell received from a man in Los Angeles concerning flying saucers. He stated that Winchell wanted to do a column on this letter if the Bureau had no objection. I told him that whatever he did with reference to writing the story concerning this letter was entirely up to him and would in no way affect anything the Bureau was doing. I suggested that he might desire to check with the Air Corps inasmuch as the handling of flying saucers was a matter of primary interest to them. He stated, "To hell with the Air Force. He just didn't want to release the information if it would affect the Bureau". DML:dad RECORDED - 59 INDEXED - 59 162-83894-194 3 AUG 18 1949 [handwritten: 3)] 61 AUG 11 1949 [illegible] --- PAGE 20 --- [illegible] RECEIVED-LAOO F B I U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE JUL 12 12 44 PM ’49 RECEIVED-FLETCHER JUL 12 6 41 PM ’49 U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE F B I [illegible] [unclear: RECEIVED-HOLCOMB?] [unclear: AUG ?49] JUL 17 6 47 PM ’49 [unclear: RECEIVED] JUL 13 10 54 AM ’49 [unclear: LOS ANGELES DIVISION] [unclear: BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION] RECEIVED-[illegible] F B I U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE JUL 12 12 [illegible] PM ’49 JUL 13 3 22 PM ’49 --- PAGE 21 --- FORM NO. 64 Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : The Director DATE: July 9, 1949 FROM : Mr. Ladd SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS [handwritten: [illegible]] Mr. Tolson Mr. Clegg Mr. Glavin Mr. Ladd Mr. Nichols Mr. Rosen Mr. Tracy Mr. Egan Mr. Gurnea Mr. Harbo Mr. Mohr Mr. Pennington Mr. Quinn Tamm Tele. Room Mr. Nease Miss Holmes Miss Gandy [handwritten: [illegible]] Ernest Cuneo advised that Walter Winchell had received a letter from Peter Cameron Jones, 164 West 37th Street, Los Angeles 7, California. Mr. Cuneo read the letter to me and it was very well written,obviously by a man of intelligence. In this letter Jones stated that in August of 1947 he left Los Angeles for the mountains and started hiking through the mountains. About 10:00 A. M. he was lying on the ground when he observed about one- half block away from him a large silver metal, greenish in color, shaped like a child's top and about the size of the balloons used at County Fairs. He stated that there appeared to be two windows in the object and portions of metal appeared transparent and that he gained the impression that there was some life within this object [handwritten: sealed.] although he saw no persons. The object appeared as though [strikethrough: as] as a pressure chamber. He stood up and waved towards this object and this so-called flying saucer was off the ground in a second, knocking Jones to the ground. In its flight he stated that its power was silent and he raised the question as to whether this was [strikethrough: a] an inter-global landing on our planet. He thought that it might be a device to land in our planet because the occupants of another planet had become curious as to the reaction caused by the explosion of the atomic bomb causing trouble in an expanded universe. He [strikethrough: left] [handwritten: asked.] question as to whether it was possible that the occupants of another planet might have solved the theory of negative gravity. Mr. Cuneo stated that this letter indicated a very good knowledge of physics and that he thought it would be interesting to check into Jones' background and then possibly interview him about this alleged flying saucer. Mr. Cuneo stated that it would appear that Jones may have actually seen a flying saucer, that in any event it made an awfully good story and he requested that the Bureau keep the matter in confidence. I would recommend that the Los Angeles Office discreetly check into the background of Jones and thereafter interview him for the purpose of determining any facts he possesses about flying saucers in order that it may be determined whether his story is in any way accurate. DML:dhb [stamp:] RECORDED - 59 [stamp:] INDEXED - 59 [handwritten: [illegible]] [handwritten:] 162-83894 - 125 [stamp:] F B I [stamp:] 3 AUG 10 1949 [stamp:] 61 AUG 11 1949 --- PAGE 22 --- RECEIVED F B I U. S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE AUG 8 2 24 PM ’49 RECEIVED-[illegible] F B I U. S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE JUL 11 11 17 AM ’49 RECEIVED-FLETCHER JUL 7 25 PM ’49 RECEIVED-FLETCHER JUL 1 12 52 PM ’49 RECEIVED 9 38 AM ’49 RECEIVED-[illegible] F B I U. S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE JUL 11 10 30 AM ’49 RECEIVED-[illegible] F B I U. S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE AUG [illegible] Jul 9 4 06 PM ’49 --- PAGE 23 --- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Division Four __________1949 ____Director, 5633 ____Mr. Logue, 5263 ____Mr. Tolson, 5744 ____Mr. Donohue, 3710 ____Mr. Ladd, 5734 ____Fugitive Desk, 5720 ____Mr. Clegg, 5256 ____Lab. Night Sup'r. 7619 ____Mr. Glavin, 5517 ____Movement Section, 5266 ____Mr. Harbo, 7641 ____Leave Clerk, 7623 ____Mr. Fletcher, 1742 ____Reading Room, 5531 ____Mr. Nichols, 5640 ____Mail Room, 5533 ____Mr. Rosen, 5706 ____Coding Unit, 4642 ____Mr. Tracy, 4130 IB ____Routing, 7133 ____Mr. McGuire, 5640 [illegible handwritten notation] Miss Gandy, 5633 [illegible handwritten notation] Teletype Unit Room 5644, Ext. 687 --- PAGE 24 --- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COMMUNICATIONS SECTION JUL 18 1949 [unclear: TELETYPE] Mr. Tolson............ Mr. Ladd.............. Mr. Clegg............. Mr. Glavin............ Mr. Nichols........... Mr. Rosen............. Mr. Tracy............. Mr. Harbo............. Mr. Mohr.............. Tele. Room............ Mr. Nease............. Miss Gandy............ [handwritten: illegible] 2244 WASH 2 FROM LOS ANGELES 18 10-35 AM DIRECTOR URGENT PETER CAMERON JONES, INFO. CONCERNING. REURTEL JULY EIGHTEEN. EFFORTS TO IDENTIFY OR LOCATE JONES NEGATIVE. HOOD ACK PLS RECORDED - 77 1 62-85994-196 F B I 3 JUL 21 1949 INDEXED - 77 57 AUG 23 1949 EX-11 [handwritten: illegible] --- PAGE 25 --- RECEIVED TELETYPE UNIT JUL 18 2 56 PM ’49 F.B.I. DEPT. OF JUSTICE [illegible] [illegible] [unclear: PETER CARROLL MOTORS, INC.], CONNERSVILLE. REQUESTS QUICK CHECK. EFFORTS TO IDENTIFY OR LOCATE JONES NEGATIVE. HOOD JACK PLS. --- PAGE 26 --- [handwritten/marginal: FLYING DISCS] N.N.I. 96--1943 [strikethrough: CONFIDENTIAL] CONFIDENTIAL ISSUED BY THE INTELLIGENCE DIVISION OFFICE OF CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS NAVY DEPARTMENT INTELLIGENCE REPORT Monograph Index Guide No. ______ (To correspond with SUBJECT given below. See O. N. I. Index Guide Make separate report for each main title) Serial no. [unclear: 38-49?] From DIO-11ND at San Diego Date 23 June 1949 Reference [unclear: CIO Conf. Ser. Ol:322P32, dtd 4 Nov 1948, Subject, Flying Discs - Report, Of.] Source See Below. Evaluation B-3 Subject Unidentified Flying Objects - Report Of. BRIEF: While flying north in a private plane source, who is believed to be reliable, saw 6 or 7 “flying discs” in southern Oregon 27 May 1949. The discs are described as elongated ovals, perhaps 20' in length; they flew in a steady file formation at between 200 to 250 MPH; they appeared to be made of unpainted metal; no smoke or exhaust trails were observed. SOURCE: LTJG Joseph C. SHELL, A5(A), USNR (Inactive), Serial #343375, of 4575 Northridge Drive, Los Angeles, California. He was commissioned Ensign 5 January 1944. Served at Corpus Christi 50 days AP(?)s; in Dallas two months VRF-2(D). Ferried SNJ’s from North American Company plants. Was at Willow Grove, Pennsylvania for 30 days. Served at check-out base for ferry squadron, VRF(2) at Columbus; served at Columbus until August 1945. Source then was with VRF(3) at Terminal Island, California, where he became legal and personnel officer. Was discharged from the Navy in January 1946 as LTJG. Source holds Naval Aviator’s Certificate #C-17945, plus a senior pilot’s rating in the Ferry Wing of the Naval Air Transport Command. He also holds a Commercial license, a single and multi-engine, and flight instructor’s ratings. His flight time began in 1934, and now totals over 5000 hours, of which time 1300 hours were in the U.S. Navy. Source secured a private license in 1935, a transport license in 1937, a commercial pilot’s license in 1938, and a “C” license commercial pilot’s license in 1945 (7184256). From March 1942 to September 1943 he was flight instructor for the Army Air Force (5 months as primary instructor at Cal-Aero, and the balance of the time as basic instructor at Lancaster, California). From September 1943 to January 1944 he flew for the Superior Oil Company of California. Since 1940 source has been Vice-President of the Royal Petroleum Company of California, Long Beach, a concern in which he and his relatives own all of the stock; he also is part-owner of three other oil producing concerns in Southern California. Source is married and has three children. He has a B.S. and B.A. degree from the University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California; he also had two years of law at the University of Southern California. Source is thirty years of age, but appears to have a background of experience few men his age possess. He is believed to be conservative, sincere, educated, reliable, and very competent. Subject—Flying and Motor [illegible]; DIO-11ND CIA (8) DI [unclear: USAF] (4) (DAB) ID [unclear: GCUSA] (4) N 15047 Op322Y 322P2-ON 2.5-5 US [unclear: 3141(2)] (THIS [illegible] OF FOUR PAGES) 322Y (4) 322N2 322P2B5 RECORDED - SO [handwritten:] Declassified by NIS letter 9/28/77 covering request of BRUCE S. MACCABEE 9306 [illegible] 12/3/77 52 AUG 22 1949 62-83894-199 --- PAGE 27 --- [stamp:] RECEIVED AUG 4 4 18 PM ’36 [illegible] F B I U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE [stamp:] RECEIVED AUG 10 13 AM ’36 [unclear: RECORDS BRANCH?] U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE --- PAGE 28 --- [strikethrough: CONFIDENTIAL] [unclear: DIO-LIHW] Serial 32-49 23 June 1949 Subject: Unidentified Flying Objects - Report of. ------------------------------------------------------------ REPORT: Unidentified Flying Objects Observed in Oregon 27 May 1949. On Friday, 27 May 1949, source was flying his own SNJ-type aircraft from Red Bluff, California to Burns, Oregon, a distance of 305 miles. He left Red Bluff at 1332 P.S.T. and arrived at Burns at 1458 P.S.T. (elapsed time: 1 hour 26 minutes). Source landed at Burns after circling the town twice, which consumed about ten minutes. While an SNJ's normal maximum speed is 170 MPH, source [illegible] his plane (which he had purchased at War Surplus, lightening the plane by about 600 lbs.) and it makes around 200 MPH true air speed. While on this flight he made 212 MPH ground speed; source estimates he had a tail wind of 15 to 18 MPH. At 1425 Pacific Standard Time, Friday, 27 May 1949, source observed the sun reflecting on an object or objects at a considerable distance ahead a few points to the starboard. He continued to watch the course taken by the reflecting material expecting it to materialize into conventional aircraft as the distance lessened between him and the object or objects. As the objects reached the lone bluff (shown on the Boise (V-2) Aeronautical Chart as Hart Mountain) which run for a number of miles along the east side of some dry lakes (Swamp, Flagstaff, Campbell and Stone Corral Lakes) he saw that instead of a single object there were several, which seemed to be flying in formation. At this point the objects appeared to have changed their course so that they were paralleling his course (southwest to his northeast) and were following the bluffs with rim at about 2000 to 1500 feet below source's altitude, at a distance which he estimates to have been 5½ to 7½ miles. Source is certain that it could not have been as far as 10 miles since the bluffs were less than 10 miles away and he could see the objects outlined against the bluffs. The objects that source saw are described by him as follows: Size of each object: Considerably smaller than a fighter plane, probably less than 20' in length. All of the separate objects appeared to be the same in size. Shape of objects: There was no break in the outline. Source is certain he would have recognized conventional aircraft. They had a solid configuration, and no great thickness. They were elongated oval, perhaps twice as long as wide, and perhaps five times as long as thick. Source points out he observed the objects from an angle from above and could not exactly estimate their thickness: they could possibly have been egg-shaped, and could conceivably have been perfectly oval. The objects seemed definitely solid objects -- there was nothing ethereal about them. Speed of objects: Source is confident they were traveling at least as fast as source's own plane (212 MPH). Source had a tail wind of 15 to 18 MPH and the objects would therefore have been doing over 230 MPH air speed. The objects were traveling south/southeast, opposite to source's course. Calculating the speed of the objects, several different ways from the facts at hand, the speed of the objects varies between 190 to 260 MPH. Source concluded at the time of observation that he could not possibly have flown around and caught up with the objects. They were definitely traveling faster than a group of birds, and slower than jet planes. No trail of smoke or exhaust was observed. The speed of the objects appeared to be steady. Terrain, elevations, population etc. in area: Source flew at 9000 MSL which was between 4000' and 5000' above terrain. During most of the time of observation, the objects were 1000' to possibly 1500' below source's altitude, toward the end of sighting when source had begun to come down he was almost on a level with them in altitude. --- PAGE 29 --- [strikethrough: CONFIDENTIAL] [unclear: DIO-11ND?] Serial 58-49 23 June 1949 Subject: Unidentified Flying Objects - Report of. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The valley through which source flew north, and the objects flew south, is roughly 12 miles wide. The floor of the valley is between 4000' to 5000' in elevation. The east side of the valley is dominated by Hart Mountain (8020' in elevation). Hart Mountain stands on an elongated bluff, which has an almost sheer drop of around 1000'. The bluff, and all the terrain, against which source saw the objects is quite dark in color. The objects stood out in contrast to the dark color. The objects appeared to be unpainted metal. The rim of the bluff on the east side of the valley is about 7000' in elevation. From where source saw the objects (at 9000' elevation they were roughly in line with the rim of the bluff (7000'). Assuming the objects were 1 to 3 miles away from the bluffside, they were probably flying at about 8000' MSL, and about 3500' above the valley floor. The valley where source sighted the objects is sparsely populated; however, there are a number of ranches there - more than are indicated on the Boise (W-2) Aeronautical Chart. Source believes that if persons living in the valley were questioned, chances are several might be found who saw the objects from the ground. Source has flown through this valley many times in going between California and Oregon and does not recall ever having seen another airplane in the valley where he sighted the objects. He thinks it is not a commercial airway route, and is seldom used by private planes. Source does not recall ever seeing any automobiles on the dirt roads in the valley, shown as such on the Boise (W-2) section of Aeronautical Chart. Number and formation of objects: At the beginning of observation, when the objects were a few degrees to the starboard of dead ahead, source could not distinguish separate objects - all he saw were reflections; however, as he came closer and passed them by 5½ to 7½ miles he definitely saw 6 or 7 separate objects. To be on the safe side source states, with positiveness, that there were no less than 5 objects and no more than 8. The objects were always in file formation (one behind the other) and there appeared to be no change in attitude of the formation. The space between the lead object and the next one was three or four times the length of one of the objects. The distance between the second and the following objects was between one-half and two-thirds the length of the objects. Accordingly, if the objects were 30' in length, the distance between #1 and #2 was 60 to 80 feet, and the distance between #2 and the others was between 10 and 17 feet. The distance between the objects appeared very constant. The objects were so close and appeared to keep such formation spacing in a manner which indicated they might have been under control by the lead object. At the distance of sighting, no connections, if there was any, could possibly have been observed. Source is positive that the objects were separate objects because he was able to see terrain between them. The formation did not fluctuate in flight; the objects flew very evenly and steadily. There, was no [illegible] objects they were going out of visual range on the horizon. Weather and visibility at time of observation: Visibility was exceptionally good. Source could see Harvey Lake, 80 miles [illegible] see under [illegible] from the air until at Burns, Oregon, 75 miles [illegible] were a few scattered clouds at between 14,000' and 18,000'. The weather report at the time indicated "scattered clouds at 18,000'". The air was very smooth. Normally the air in the area is light to mildly turbulent. The sun was [illegible] of source; that is, source's plane was between the sun and the objects. Location of sighting objects (refers to Boise (W-2) Sectional Aeronautical Chart). Source's location when objects were first sighted --- PAGE 30 --- [stamp: CONFIDENTIAL] 2220-11.00 [illegible] 38-49 23 June 1949 Subject: Unidentified Flying Objects - Report On. observed the objects. This position could possibly be as much as five miles SSW of the position given. Sources’ location when objects left his visual range was 42°41’N, 119°49’W. Source flew in a straight line between these coordinates. Location of objects when first observed: 42°38’N, 119°43’W. Location of objects when last seen: 42°28’N, 119°48’W. The objects made a slight change of course from quartering to paralleling source’s straight line of flight. REPORTING OFFICER’S COMMENT: It is believed that conventional aircraft, balloons, astronomical phenomena, and [unclear: atmospheric] can be eliminated as an explanation for the objects sighted by source. Since source was not flying into the sun and since he is an expert pilot-instructor, VERTIGO does not appear to be a reasonable explanation; nor do reflections on, or irregularities of, the plexiglass canopy through which source viewed the objects offer a reasonable explanation, because of the wide range of observance of the objects. As far as the reporting officer’s comments are concerned (as well as source’s own comment) the explanation of source’s sighting of the strange flying objects remains a question mark.